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When did you first get into Renoise?

When did you first get into Renoise?

Postby sagosen » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:37 am

As this is the first post on Renoise here, let's make it a good one. :)

I first checked out Renoise in 2001, bought it almost immediatly and was addicted to that way of tracking ever since.

Came from FT2 in 1996 (lightly) and did my best tracks in that software in 2000 before joining the army. Then did one Buzz-track, some unfinished Psyckle-works (liked the community, tho) and helloooooo Renoise! :D
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Postby drye » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:10 am

I was looking for a substitute to Impulse Tracker for a long time. The first one i stumbled across was ZTracker... It had an impulse tracker interface, but could practically only control MIDI instruments i.e. no sample support.
Then i tried buzz tracker, which seemed interesting, but i was looking for an Impulse Tracker feel. Next program i tried using was Modplug tracker, but i couldn't stand the interface.
I had high hopes for Impulse Tracker III, but the project died.
One day i found Skale tracker and thought this is _the_ tracker i'm looking for. Sadly, that project died too.

Somewhere inbetween my tracker quest i checked out Renoise (some early version). I didn't like it at all and went on with my search for the ultimate tracker. Meanwhile Renoise got better and better, and i completely forgot about it. One day i decided to give it another try... I didn't even recognise it. It felt completely different. It felt ... perfect. I thought it was too good to be true, but there it was... The tracker of my dreams.

I still havent bought it though... I suck. I know.
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Postby organic io » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:22 am

found it almost exactly a year ago ... finally just got around to buying it a month ago. WELL worth the $
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Postby Sonicade » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:36 am

I purchased Renoise shortly after discovering it sometime in 2001-2003 I don't remember exactly. I had tried a string of software after using Impulse Tracker for a long time. Some of the software I tried was Buzz, Psycle, zTracker, Skale, Fruity Loops (which I liked), Reason, Cubase, Logic. The later 3 were intimidating and seemed difficult to just jump in and compose. Renoise sold me primarily with their VST support, DSP capabilities and solid, intuitive interface.

I was a bit disappointed when 2 people at Renoise didn't even bother responding to my emails regarding promotion of SDCompo (currently a Renoise based compo) but they make excellent product which they continue to support well.
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Postby imode » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:08 pm

I was introduced to it way back when by some odd person named Crimson.

It didn't take. The interface and commands were too foreign from what I was used to in Impulse Tracker, and I was already stuck in my way. I found Impulse Tracker to Fast Tracker 2 almost impossible, so IT to something totally different was out of the question.

I gave up tracking. Got more involved in ripping mp3's, playing games, watching porno, yadda yadda.

I get introduced again by Crimson, now named Sonicade. He tells me he's starting a compo using our old group as its namesake. He also tells me that all former group members have to track (getting the band back together...). So here I am. I learned how to track in Renoise two days before the sample pack came out. I still don't care for the interface, and I have a tendency for 'wtf' moments, like nuking entire patterns and having no idea how I did it, or writing out nice melodies when I'm still in playback mode.
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Postby aged » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:38 pm

imode wrote:I was introduced to it way back when by some odd person named Crimson.

It didn't take. The interface and commands were too foreign from what I was used to in Impulse Tracker, and I was already stuck in my way. I found Impulse Tracker to Fast Tracker 2 almost impossible, so IT to something totally different was out of the question.

I gave up tracking. Got more involved in ripping mp3's, playing games, watching porno, yadda yadda.


don't wanna tell the same story twice so i had to copy&paste ;D
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Postby groovyone » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:53 am

1 day ago :shock:

I think I'm getting pretty good at it now! w0mp!
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Postby organic io » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:44 am

groovyone wrote:1 day ago :shock:

I think I'm getting pretty good at it now! w0mp!


welcome to the scene!!
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Postby Sonicade » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:27 am

Welcome to SDCompo Groovyone.
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Postby groovyone » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:56 pm

Just bought Renoise. So I guess i must like it.

And just finished the compo entry :twisted:
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Postby Harmony » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:02 am

I was a bit disappointed when 2 people at Renoise didn't even bother responding to my emails regarding promotion of SDCompo (currently a Renoise based compo)


Yeah that is a shame Sonicade :( , I'm surprised they wouldn't be keen to promote a regular Renoise-only comp since it would definately get more people using the software. Maybe your email to them got trapped in spam or something, is there a way to contact them through the forums instead?

The interface and commands were too foreign from what I was used to in Impulse Tracker, and I was already stuck in my way.


I feel your pain imode, I was exactly the same - after using IT for 5 years and knowing all the shortcuts backwards I really didn't want to swap to another tracker, but I started playing with Renoise in 2001 simply because I couldn't get IT to run on Win2K (and didn't figure out about dosbox until later). The weird thing is even though I used Renoise a bit then I didn't properly learn it until about six months ago when I picked up tracking again and had had enough time to forget most of what I knew about IT so I wasn't relearning I was just learning.

I'm pretty impressed that some of you picked up Renoise within a day or two of the comp and actually tracked full entries with it! :)
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Postby groovyone » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:26 am

I concur. I was playing with Psycle for a while but lack of automation features and regular crashing drove me nuts and damaged creativity.

I was stuck in IT then modplug mode for ages until decided to pick up Renoise now it's a little more established and figure it out. must say it's not too hard to figure out, and you can customize the keys like any good program to match what you're used to.

Really I found with automation and SFX that a lot of the more complex tracking commands and techinques that just aren't required in 3G trackers like Renoise to get the same result as before.

Renoise is just another tool, the concepts are the same and just understanding the logic behind the interface is the only hurdle, the rest of it is just making music.

There's nothing like learning a new tracker than just writing music in it. Within a day or two you will get to know it pretty fast. Also looking at other people's songs helps you too cos you just think.. damn that sounds good, how did they do that and then try it yourself.

I think part of the trick of learning a new tool is not to engorge yourself in all the nitty gritty features and making things too complex, only do what you have to do for a reason.
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Postby MickRip » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:30 pm

Using Impulse Tracker for years and years, Renoise felt really strange - because I was used to doing it all the "IT way", which is the same, but different - the 'vibe' of Renoise was great. It was stable too.

Renoise has good user Feng Shui :P

At the end of the day, a tracker is a tracker is a tracker. Just notes and duration. You learn one, you learn them all. Just takes perseverance to learn the differences between the old and the new. I had trouble with Renoise at the beginning, and I rejected it slightly because of my problem with change, and parts of my personality would rather stick with the old and stay more productive than learn something knew and be a cripple for a week :P

If Impulse Tracker was working on my machine, I would have stuck with that, because that's my silly logic.

My heart knew it was the way to go, so I bought it straight away, just to make me use the bloody thing. My gut rules all at the end of the day.

Renoise has allowed my production to go up another level. Sometimes too many tools/options is a thorn in a tracker's proverbial side. That's probably the hardest learning curve with Renoise of all!
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Postby organic io » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:21 pm

my friend travis who goes by the names of machine drum, tstewart, and syndrone, and is moderately successful as a professional musician, still uses impulse tracker as his primary tool. i asked him why he doesn't use something newer like renoise, and he said "oh yeah, i know about that stuff, but i like the limitations of impulse tracker"

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Postby aged » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:17 pm

dj io wrote:...
i asked him why he doesn't use something newer like renoise, and he said "oh yeah, i know about that stuff, but i like the limitations of impulse tracker"

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heh, yeah! i'm into challenges like that too ;D
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